Is there another way to scroll ctrls?

When scrolling ctrl pages, is there another way to scroll than to use the arrow buttons? It can get quite tedious when the pages are too many. Case in point:

Stepping down 654 times pushing down arrow that many times is a bit boring, just to get to the compressor settings :grin:

There, scrolling using one of the encoders would come in handy, for example. A modifier button or something maybe?

Push sel and rotate knob#4.
You will find a lot of ā€œtricksā€ like this in the user guide :grimacing:

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Thanks a lot! I didn’t know what select mode meant, but now I know :grin:

Well, i think the user guide is quite explicit:

  • SEL to enter select mode, then fast-browse controller pages by rotating knob#4.

:grin:

thanks

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I’m very sorry, but I swear on my grandmothers grave that I searched like crazy and there were only two matches for select mode on the page I found.

Either there are multiple copies of the wiki floating around out there or you guys manage to edit the wiki without it showing up in the history :joy:

I guess I will have to manually navigate from the wiki main menu from now on.

I’m seriously doubting my sanity too, I can’t seem to find my way back to the page I found.

The UI guide was very clear and explicit, I agree! Thank you for that!

EDIT: It is now clear I found the old stable wiki page. Zynthian UI User Guide - V5

Always worth questioning on a regular basis, otherwise you can’t be sure you are grounded… :wink:

I always start by accessing the main wiki page and then navigate to the user guides and select the link that I need, which is usally near the top of the list, e.g. most recent user guide or zynseq guide or zynsampler guide. Others may want to bookmark these pages but, by navigating I get to see if a new document has been created or and old one replaced / depricated.

It is worth noting that the main Oram user guide is a work-in-progress and there are important elements that have not yet made it into that guide so you may be further informed by reading the older guides too.

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Is there a way to enable the V4 behavior of clicking knob #4 to toggle between ā€œselect parameterā€ and ā€œedit parameter valueā€? When editing using the built in UI, it’s so much faster to keep one’s fingers on the encoders, than having to jump back and forth between the encoders and the Sel button.

(This is one of the features that makes editing patches on the V4 a breeze. I sortof miss the ā€œbugā€ that there once was that the three encoders that are not used when scrolling through parameters still could adjust the corresponding parameters in this mode.)

Hi @ricard!

The behaviour you want in V5 collides with MIDI learning workflow.
I also like the V4’s workflow, but we had to make some minor sacrifice when designing the V5 workflow.

We decided to have a cleaner, more homogeneous UI, and this kind of ā€œfeature-bugsā€ makes things still more difficult when coding for several UI layouts.

Anyway, we’re open to proposals :wink:

Regards,

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How about a configuration parameter in the Admin menu, like ā€œFast MIDI learnā€, which when enabled gives the current V5 behavior, and when disabled gives the V4 behavior?

The rationale being that if one wants to do a lot of editing using the built-in UI, at that point one is not interested in enabling MIDI learning (which could still be available like on V4 on knob #3 in this mode). Conversely, Fast MIDI Learn may be useful on the V4 too, as it’s possible to scroll through the parameter list using the touch display if fitted.

Yes, I can understand that. I think it was a mistake originally rather than a deliberate feature wasn’t it?