LinuxSampler sfz/Sample Format

[MatFluor]

Hi there,

freshly got my V3 kit and had a blast putting it together and taking it for a spin (Pairs nicely with my DYI faderbox).

My Question - I’m trying to load in self-sampled instruments and sounds that I created originally to use with sforzando. The main problem is - I get no sound from my sfz files. Is there something LinuxSampler specifics that I missed?
I’m creating my sfz files with a selfmade tool intended to quickly map a sample folder into a playable instrument (which works well and has even been tested by Charlie Clouser a few months ago xD), it inserts comment, CC labels and all the goodness.

My Samples usually are 48/24, I tried to convert them down to 44.1/16 but apparently same result Any help appreciated.

A snippet of the generated sfz file I’m using:

/*
Name: Moving Pads
Instrument: Synth

http://www.sfzformat.com/
https://plogue.com/products/sforzando.html

Recorded by: Matthias Fluor
Terms of Use: Just use it
Created: 2020-05-01
===========================================

*/

<control>
default_path=441/Pad I/
label_cc007=Main Volume
label_cc010=Main Pan
label_cc85=0

set_cc007=100
set_cc010=64

<global>
volume=0
// A & R Settings
ampeg_attack=0.001
ampeg_release=0.15
amp_veltrack=0
// Master Volume and Pan
amplitude_oncc7=100
pan=-100
pan_oncc10=200

<group>
// Group: 0
group_label=0

// Layer fade-in / "Group Mic Volume"
xfin_locc85=0
xfin_hicc85=127

<region> sample=mov_pad_i_C1.wav key=24 lovel=0 hivel=127 seq_position=0amp_velcurve_127=1

[Baggypants]

linuxsampler can’t use all the opcodes that sforzando uses so it’s probabaly that.

[jofemodo]

We are working in a new engine for SFZ that should have a better SFZ-2 support:

Sfizz Integration

Hi, I’d be interested in the integration of Sfizz SFZ player as it can play SFZ files that linux sampler cannot. I was able to buid it from source on my zynthian and access the LV2 plugin on MOD-UI; however, I wasn’t able to load a SFZ file… It would be perfect to have a Sfizz engine, like the fluid engine, and I’m ready to try to develop it; however I would need a more step-by-step guide than the one on the wiki. Any guidance on how to properly run this LV2 on Zynthian or on developing an e…

[MatFluor]

Thanks for the pointer, didn’t think of that.

What I found out (so it’s essentially solved with a question remaining):

1. LinuxSampler ignores the missing opcodes - meaning you can slap in ARIA-style sfz files. That wasn’t the problem in my case
2. “C style” comments /* multiline comment */ result in no sound played (guessing that LS doesn’t see it as comment and “breaks” due to strange characters)
3. seq_position without RRs doesn’t work (haven’t tested with RRs yet)

And the resulting implementation question for Zynthian-UI:
If I create additional control, such as a crossfade with xfin_locc/xfin_hicc, is there a way to have the CC displayed in the UI as encoder? So I would essentially have a page with “Additional controls” and there the 4 Hardware encoders could be used for 4 freely creatable sfz effect - be it a cutoff or as in my case a “mic mixer”.

@jofemodo: Thanks for that pointer as well. I heard about sfizz on the sfz development discord, but haven’t looked into it yet, since until now I did all my personal sampling for sforzando

[Baggypants]

@MatFluor

If I create additional control, such as a crossfade with xfin_locc/xfin_hicc , is there a way to have the CC displayed in the UI as encoder? So I would essentially have a page with “Additional controls”

The answer is yes, but you will have to create more hardcoded controls by editing the linuxsampler engine zynthian-ui/zyngine/zynthian_engine_linuxsampler.py at testing · zynthian/zynthian-ui · GitHub

[MatFluor]

Thanks!
Awesome - Hackable enough for many cases (since I usually have the same CCs for the usual things).

[jofemodo]

@MatFluor

“C style” comments /* multiline comment */ result in no sound played (guessing that LS doesn’t see it as comment and “breaks” due to strange characters)

It should be quite easy to solve … giving that we have the source code …

[jofemodo]

@MatFluor

If I create additional control, such as a crossfade with xfin_locc/xfin_hicc , is there a way to have the CC displayed in the UI as encoder? So I would essentially have a page with “Additional controls” and there the 4 Hardware encoders could be used for 4 freely creatable sfz effect - be it a cutoff or as in my case a “mic mixer”.

I will think about it. Perhaps we could add some kind of “engine configuration file”, like the yaml files used for the PD engine …

[jofemodo]

Please, open a “feature request” in our fantastic tracking system …

zynthian/zynthian-issue-tracking