Oram questions

Using Zynthian
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Yes. You are right! Snapshots saved in Vangelis will fail in Oram.
We are working in a hotfix.

Regards

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I’ve pushed a fix in Vangelis and Oram Staging:

But you have to re-save your snapshots to fix them so they are compatible with Oram Stable.

Regards!

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cheers. testing it right now. there is one issue. My oram loads the faulty snapshot and it is not possible to remove all layers, because it tries to save the snapshot, fails, and doesn’t remove all layers. I have to remove the last_state snapshot and reboot again. Something other users might find awkward.

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It kind of works…but the SOLO flag is set on all channels, when I load a
subsnapshot

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Could you send the logs?

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the logs for which of the two? I think for the first one you don’t need the logs. It seems, that when powering off or removing all layers, you are saving the last state. But when that fails, the action (powering off or removing all layers) is not proceeded.
Or do you need the logs during load of a vangelis snapshot so that the SOLO flag is on?

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@jofemodo
I just updated to the latest oram on my touch only device.
Could it be, that the active mode is broken right now?
And is it possible to have a shortcut to mixer view again?
I found out, that right wiping seems to be new. But bold press on header row always opens sequencer right now, which I don’t need. Could this be configurable?

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regarding active mode…it doesn’t work, if multitimbral mode is on…Maybe a warning could be shown, when you select active mode and there is no non-multitimbral mode device.

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Sorry, mheidt, i don’t understand what do you mean. Could you explain your setup, the exact steps you follow, what do you expect and what do you get, etc.

Thanks!

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Ah, actually it’s a minor thing. I had to setup the Touch-Only zynthian again (the one with the keyboard) which is controlling a real one. So I only add empty chains for the midi routing. Regarding “Active Mode”, I found out that the MIDI-In of the chains mustn’t be in MultiTimbral mode, if you want to route the original MIDI-Channel1 signal to your DIN-MIDI-Out on the channel of the corresponding empty chain.
So if all MIDI-In devices are in Multitimbral mode, ActiveMode doesn’t work by design. But it might be confusing for unexperienced users, so that a warning could help find the problem.
More serious was the issue I had regarding updating. Couldn’t find the reason though. It has been stuck at compiling of some Korean language thing, I guess. (I gave it multiple hours…)
Maybe because I had too many channels (engines) loaded and not enough memory?
Maybe warning the user to free up some memory before starting the update process could help. If that was the reason…
Ah…and regarding “Merry Christmas!” and a wishlist for the touch interface: A shortcut to the mixer would be great. Like you always end up in the sequencer right now. A little bit annoying, when you don’t need it. This was better in the past.

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Bold press the back icon should take you to the mixer.

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Thanks Brian.
My fingers seem to be too big to hit that by accident when I tried to find it.

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Multitimbral and active mode are mutually exclusive. If all MIDI-IN devices are in multitimbral mode, any of them is in active mode. But you can mix devices in active and multitimbral mode.

This is one of the biggest conceptual changes in Oram. Capture mode is related to individual MIDI-IN devices.
It can be confusing, specially when used to the old global modes, but it’s super powerful.

Cheers

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Do you have a description of how your touch-only zynthian is controlling another one? I’m quite interested in how multi-zynthian setups work.

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I had an old StudioLogic SL 880 with broken electronics. which I zynthianized. Now it’s in the room of my band. But on stage I have better equipment. That’s why I keep the “real” setup on a different zynthian.
I tried sharing snapshots but that doesn’t really work in a timely manner. So many little things you need to consider…f.e. favourites. If you have SubSnapShot, that is switching to a sound that is a favourite preset in the source-zynthian, the subsnapshot doesn’t work on the other which doesn’t have the sound marked as favourite.
Besides that different zynthians are having different gains. That’s why I keep one and only one productive zynthian. Which reminds me to synchronize the backup one :slight_smile:
Now I am using the SL880 based one only as Master Keyboard. The USB Midi board between the physical keys and the raspberry is sending on MIDI channel 1. So I let the SL880 Zynthian have multiple empty MIDI chains. One for each MIDI channel I need in the real one. The SL880 runs in active mode, so that I can use the touch interface to switch between chains/channels. I always forget to enable Midi DIN-A in the Midi-Out section, which is disabled by default, when you create a new chain. That’s all. Not much magic here.

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This sounds like a bug. The recall of a favourite should recall the actual preset, not the “favourites link”. Please report this in the issue tracker.

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Ah, so the touchscreen Zynthian is used as a replacement for the keyboard internals and for routing? That’s pretty cool :slight_smile:

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yes, a little oversized though. It is holding a Pianoteq licence :joy:

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Add some speakers and it’s now a standalone instrument :smiley:

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You mean like this?

The wyleu family piano. It’s run for six weeks… Hifiberry amp.

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