Hi guys, i would like to swap the encoders for non-detented ones.
The ones used in the V5.1 kit are too clicky for my taste.
Also the button is to torqey .
Are there any requirments i need to obey, as in PPR , channels or shaft length ?
I have a lot of 652-PEC11R-4220F-S24 in case that would work.
De-Soldering is no problem..
Hi @ArguZ !
I think it’s a very bad idea because all the code for managing list, selectors, grid cursors, etc. is designed to expect and use detents. The UI will become quite uncomfortable to use with non-detent encoders.
Anyway, good luck with the hacking and please, keep us informed about the results.
Regards,
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Hey @jofemodo - I think I understand what you mean, the UI uses the detent clicks to map to entries in a list, etc. However, I often use the Akai APC Key25 mk2 with @oscaracena ‘s controller driver. The Key25 has encoders without detents, and also doesn’t have switches on the encoders themselves, so you have to use pads. Yet it feels quite natural and comfortable.
I think it is a very subjective choice about the detents.
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You certainly need visual feedback for non-detent encoders, especially for lists but it may work quite well for you, e.g. look at the screen when changing a list, use ear when changing a parameter. You won’t get that physcial feedback about slow changes though, i.e. without looking, you won’t necessarily know how much, if any change was made. As said above, it may or may not provide a suitable UI - only you can tell…
The existing encoders have 20 detents per rotation. There is some code that tries to interpolate for faster and slower rotation to improve the feel of the knob and there is acceleration to increase the rate of change when rotated faster. A higher detent per rotation may work. Lower would be inadvisable. I don’t know the physical dimensions but you can always measure that yourself. I kinda depends on what knobs you want to use.
The hardware interface and code expects incremental encoders, i.e. a common switch contact and two switches with equal phase separation to allow equal decoding of direction and speed. These are often identified by their pinout and form factor, having 3 pins (center common) on one side and two pins (push switch) on the other.
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We always use 24 detent per rotation for all kits.
Regards,
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Hi guys, thanks for the answeres and considerations.
I deliberately made the switch to V5.1 from V4 to use the keypads for lits etc.
Could i maybe get the part number of the encoder used in the kit, then i can compre the details in the datasheet.
Thanks 