I am trying to create/save/use ZS3 subsnapshots without the kit. I run
Linux zynthian 6.6.47-v8+ #1794 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 29 16:29:21 BST 2024 aarch64 GNU/Linux (supports my RC505 as sound card) .
According to the manual:
"From the Control screen, short click the snapshot button to enter MIDI control learn mode then short click the snapshot button. You will see the current list of ZS3s (initially empty) and a message: “Waiting for Program Change…”
My problem is that I dont have a kit and dont have a snapshot button. There is no CUIA for “snapshot button”? How do I do this using keyboard bindings/MIDI bindings/programmatically or whatever?
If I press keyboard “O” (mapped to ZYNSWITCH 2) I get “CHAIN control MIDI-Learn”, press once more I get “GLOBAL Control MIDI-Learn”. No “waiting for program change”.
I looked at github, saw that “ZS3/SHOT” was mapped to “ZYNSWITCH 7”, mapped ZYNSWITCH 7 to a key, confirmed that ZYNSWITCH 7 was received in the UI log but no reaction?
ZS3 seems like a crucial component to be able to use zynthian in a headless keyboard expander type setup.
Do you have a touchscreen or mouse? Is so, switch to touch-only (in UI and docs).
If you use keyboard binding then you can emulate a V4 out-of-th-box. Switch docs to V4 to see how the encoders work.
I mostly use a UK QWERTY keyboard and trackpad over VNC and bold press ‘o’ to access ZS3 menu then bold press ‘o’ to reach snapshot menu.
Thank you! Bold press ‘o’ worked. It was not something I managed to work out from the documentation. The touch UI in “Control screen” has “<<”, “Preset”, “Pages”, “>>” buttons. Is it possible to manipulate ZS3s using touch UI only?
Yes, touch only is now fully implemented with full control of zynthian. We haven’t finished writing the documentation (boring job!) but a start is to select “touch-only” at top right of docs to show relevant docs.
Hello.
Read user’s guide the whole day, tried to save a subsnapshot the whole night. Without success. Now on the road of deep depression.
o or O via VNC does not invoke such thing as an (empty) list of subsnapshots but invokes yellow ‘?’ for learning single controls.
Failure sits in front of the keyboard.
Bold press ‘o’ should take you to the ZS3 (SubSnapShots) view. Bold press ‘o’ again should take you to the Snapshots view.
Similarly, bold touch top right does the same.
Where in the documentation does it say that short press ‘o’ does this? We must update such erroneous guidance.
Good morning Brian, had to sleep a few hours… 
Ehm…
I think it is a matter of language misunderstanding, however: I have no idea how to ‘bold’ press an ‘o’ using my VNC-Client. Furthermore, there is no ‘top right’-controller of whatever at my Zynthian.
But the sadest thing is: I am a hundred percent certain I was able to to save and recall subsnapshots… when I was younger….
Kind regards. Thorsten
Good morning Thorsten. With age comes wisdom… and then it ebbs away again…
To bold press ‘o’:
- Push the ‘o’ key on the computer keyboard
- Wait 0.5s (or how ever long is configured in webconf)
- Release the ‘o’ key
I remembered whilst testing this that we also map long press ‘o’ to snapshot view by default, so push ‘o’ key for longer than 2s (or how ever long is configured in webconf) to show snapshot view without stepping through ZS3 view. (Long push triggers without releasing the key.)
Bold and Long timing is configured in webconf INTERFACE→UI Options with the “Advanced view” enabled.
Short, bold and long press are described in the wiki.
The top of most views shows the topbar, with some (scrolling) text, audio meters and info icons. The audio meters and info icons are to the right of the topbar and represent the “Status Area”. This status area acts as a hidden button or touch area. Short press will show the Tempo view. Bold press will show the ZS3 (and subsequently the Snapshot) view. Long press will trigger “All Sounds Off” (panic) action.
Good evening Brian,
‘bold’ press top right worked and does exactly as you proposed.
Thank you so much for your patience.
Thorsten