Zynth club. .. There's just one rule in Zynth club

Thank you for the invitation, it was cool, I don’t know how much time it continue after (my) midnight… but I’m tired now.

I have discovered nice people -and a dog- that know how to listen way better than me, interesting discussions and informations. I’ve discovered too that in 2025 not everyone have hi speed internet and we still have people with two full seconds of lag between video and audio :sweat_smile: . And that I have to keep training myself to understand real English as easy as international English.

And sorry to take so much space, but it was great to speak to you and with you. Now that I’m divorced, it was a refreshing moment. :face_blowing_a_kiss:

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We had a fun night with far too much discussion about zynthian!

  • There were old faces missing but…
  • There were wonderful new faces to meet.
  • @Wapata regaled us with his massive collection of MIDI hardware controllers, many self-built.
  • Time of flight sensors are supported by zynthian but the code depends on a I2C multiplexer.
  • Others have done similar stuff.
  • LibraZiK is a French, audio toolkit for you GNU/Linux desktop.
  • We may have mentioned the HexBoard MIDI Controller before. You can read more here.
  • Sixty Four Pixels do a lot in this field.
  • There was a demo of development of the launcher changes - it mostly worked and was mostly well received.
  • A MIDI controller was dismantled and fixed. I can now play middle C again with confidence.
  • Samplerate conversion is not as simple as it seems.
  • But time is even more complex!
  • Pianoteq 9 was discussed, including its, “…rich, vibrant swirl, making the sound feel organic and evolving, like ripples shimmering at the surface of a lake.”
  • We saw how code abstraction can lead to wider implementation of features.
  • We heard how anything is possible, but nothing is easy.

This is what happens when no one takes notes… I forget almost everything! Some of this account may be true. (Although it seems that the current world view of “truth” is quite distorted so who can know?)

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Thank you Brian, for your report !

I would like to add some other just touched topics (if I understood, because of my poor English):

  • old users and young users have with different approches to Zynthian
  • suggestion of a parallel simpler approach to sequencers/zymbleton… for old users (like me…): for example have a very easy loop station
  • different way to use this magic box: as expander, as sequencer, as audio launcher, etc.
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And more:

  • Brian calculated that if you load all available slots in zynbleton (16 channels × 32 rows) with an audio clip of 30 seconds, you’d need 2.8 Gigs of RAM.
  • We talked about engines with multiple audio outputs.
  • People showed guitars.
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Yes, it was a good suggestion to be able to record loops. We talked about where sooperlooper could/should be used for this workflow.

I found an feature request to be able to split multitrack audio to separate chains which sounds similar to the idea of handling synths with multiple outputs.

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I would just clarify for those not there that old and young users are long term and new users to Zynthian with their differing levels of experience, workflows and approaches …. not their time on the planet.

There was some discussion around features and I didn’t get a chance to mention something on my mind about how other devs are handling the integration of new features into old workflows.

  • Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 is a continuously integrated version with 25H2 but with all the new features defaulted to being unenabled but available to be enabled.
  • Obsidian note taking app takes the same approach when adding new features so users can enable new functionality at their own pace or ignore them entirely to keep their workflow.
  • The vid posted by @wyleu discusses the challenges of changing default, familiar but ultimately flawed behaviours without disenfranchising old users’ familiar workflows but making features more sensible/discoverable for new users.
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Right !

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I would like to suggest two shortcuts that could be improve the usability:

  1. a direct command to play a MIDI file
  2. a direct command to play an audio file
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Which one?

both

Sorry, I mean, for example, which audio file should the direct command trigger? The last recorded one?

I mean I direct command to play an audio file you choose from capture folder

now:

  1. add instrument chain

  2. Zynsampler

  3. choose MIDI Channel

  4. go to capture

  5. choose the file

  6. transport → playing

for General MIDI file playing it seems also longer; now I even forgot all the steps for it

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Please open a feature request in the issue tracker describing the feature and workflow you envisage.

I might be wrong, but I thought that pressing the record button just globally records audio, while the play button plays the last recorded audio without a ZynSampler chain. Same with Alt-Record and Alt-Play for Midi.

See section 3.5 → transport buttons here:

This might not be your intended behaviour though.

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I did it

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Finally I found the existing shortcut to play Audio file: I set F1 to execute the action “Audio File List” then:

  1. press F1 and the screen will show the capture folder with audio files

  2. choose the audio file to play

  3. transport → playing

:ok_hand:

Now I would like to found a similar way to play MIDI files.

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That sounds like a useful feature, sometimes i do multitrack recording with Z and after i go to Audacity with my multitrack file to mix it. Would be really nice to be able to do stuff with the multitracks in Z.

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Must be about time for another Zynth Club before the silly season …

Howzabout next Tuesday 2025-12-02 at 19:00UTC, or high noon in these here parts of California?

Edited to correct date error. 12-04 → 12-02

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Tuesday 2nd or Thursday 4th would be fine for me but not Tuesday 4th (unless some temporal anomaly occurs in them there parts!).

Thanks, I actually looked at a calendar, apparently through murky eyes.

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