Graillon Autotune LV2

This is a very good autotune plugin. Available as a LV2. Free version is very usable for the modern autotune style. Linux also. Could this be included on Zynthian?
https://www.auburnsounds.com/products/Graillon.html

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We should ask for a arm64 versión of the lv2 plugin.

Regards

Well, I asked, they don’t have it!

Yes, i asked too and they told me they wont support LV2 for arm64, but they will support CLAP when zynthian implements support for it. I’m thinking about it …

Regards,

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Hi @jofemodo,

CLAP would be great! :slight_smile:

PS… how do you type and work with arms in plaster…?
PPS I hope your recovery goes to your expectations…

Cheers,
Maarten

It would if there was a standalone CLAP host that we could integrate into zynthian. Otherwise it may as well be a windows VST.

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Hi @jofemodo ,

Still thinking about it … ? :smiley:

Would be a big win since so many developers start supporting CLAP and often only CLAP and VST3…

Cheers,
Maarten

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CLAP and VST3 are not good plugin formats for zynthian as they are all very tied to their GUIs. There is not strong separation between sound engine and GUI, what is a problem for zynthian and other embedded devices. In the other side, LV2 has a strong separation between sound engine and GUI, what makes LV2 very well suited for us.

The best,

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Hi @jofemodo ,

Thank you for your clear explanation!
(Still a shame … :sob:

Now I have to start looking how to compile some plugins to LV2… (If even possible) A great challenge!!
Do you have any lead to were to look. I am thinking of trying to compile GitHub - surge-synthesizer/shortcircuit-xt: Download the beta here : https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/shortcircuit-xt/releases/tag/Nightly with a LV2 wrapper. No clue yet and not really secure about success… but I will try.

Cheers,
Maarten

PS … and… Zynthian is the BEST!!! What a wonderful device and project!!

If it is a JUCE software then it should be able to be built as LV2 but there may be some platform specific code that makes it challenging. If that fails and if this is such a fantastic addition that someone has the energy and enthusisam to do so, it may be possible to wrap the standalone version in a zyngine wrapper… but that depends on how much control is exposed via any API.

I have found that adding a LV2 build statement to the CMake will sometimes work.

[Edit] I tried - it failed. In the CMake.txt: Building a CLAP is required for any other format so it depends on CLAP working and this error during cmake prep:

CMake Error at libs/clap/clap-wrapper/CMakeLists.txt:26 (cmake_policy):
  Policy "CMP0149" is not known to this version of CMake.

Hi @riban ,

Wow!! that is fast !! (Again! :joy:)
Can you tell me waht you did?

I can compile it on my development PI5. I commented the line in which CMP0149 is mnetioned; line 26 of “libs/clap/clap-wrapper/CMakeLists.txt”
It will compile after that :smiley:
I use the Idaeil-Synth wrapper (as LV2 plugin) to run ‘Shortcircuit XT.clap’. That works!
Unfortunately Shortcircuit XT.clap presets etc are not accessible in the Zynthian GUI.
Moreover Idaeil-Synth.lv2 take 10% of CPU power… if not more…
‘Shortcircuit XT.clap’ is still in alpha/beta phase… but it looks like a very promissing and capable sampler!
It can load SFZ/ZF2 and .apk instruments (=AKAI Z4/Z8 and S5000/S6000)!!!
However, probably the editting in the Zynthian GUI is no option, but I feel fine (and probably a lot of others?) with editting in the VNC window :+1:

Another alternative, is perhaps a zyngine wrapper? Is that difficult to do?

Cheers and thanks for your support!
Maarten

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I added the line option(SCXT_BUILD_LV2 "Build a VST3 plugin" ON) to CMakeLists.txt. I have made the patch you suggest and started it compiling but it is very slow. It is stuck at 1%. Let’s see how it goes.

It is VERY slow…

If it was up to me, I would toss all plugins without controls on Zynthian out the window. Then it becomes a laptop and we have laptops for that! :wink:

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Hi @NathanI ,

Editting in the VNC window does not exclude editing in the Zynthian GUI. But, in a very large parameter space like the DSP65300 synths editting per 4 parameters page in the Zynthian GUI is almost impossible for me. I have no overview. Often the graphical interface gives a nice overview/clustering of parameters that belong together etc etc. Also Wave editing in a sampler or wavetable synth cannor be done in the zynth.
So… very nice that for audio plugins I can use the zynthian display to adjust some parameters. But when making nice sounds on complex synths a graphical interface is in my opinion a necessicity. During performance you could edit SOME parameters on the Zynthian GUI.

Cheers,
Maarten

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Hi @riban ,

No succes here. It compiles, bur only VST3, the clap and the program itseld… NO lv2.

Thanks for trying!!

Cheers,
Maarten

Zynthian UI has been never thought for editing/creating patches in complex engines. But having the parameters available and well sorted has much sense, specially now that automation is being implemented.

Regards,

Hi @jofemodo

Indeed. But I am glad that Zynthian offers both possibilities…!

Cheers,
Maarten

Same here. It was worth a shot.

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I don’t understand. Implementing this Ableton-ish workflow without the possibility of making patches seems weird? It’s all about live playing and mangling samples on the fly. Don’t get me wrong, almost all plugins on Zynthian seems editable and are very nice, but isn’t that then also the focus-point?