I wouldnāt apologize for your voice, itās absolutely fine, I think it sounds very good in this type of song, very full and expressive.
If I were to offer any criticism, itās that especially during the brass riff, the rhythm sounds a bit stilted, like the drums arenāt keeping time, and that throws the brass section off as well. I think it would be very hard to record the piano first and then try to match the drums to that. One suggestion might be to first record some basic drums by listening to a metronome or click track, to get the rhythm track steady, and then once the rest of the song is in place, re-record them to get the proper feel.
Thanks for your suggestions. the battery is obviously midi and therefore itās not wrongā¦ the mistakes are mine. For the brass you are right and I have already improved something. As soon as I finish, Iāll post the song here.
Many thanks
I had the great fortune to find online the drum part played by Tullio dePiscopo in the live version (whoever wrote it is a cursed geniusā¦)
Then I put back the piece recorded by me with the beautiful drum partā¦
!!!REMIXED!!!
!!!REMIXED!!! For the second time
!!!REMIXED!!! New attempt with the voice, but Iām still not good
That is really good! I know you have expressed some lack of confidence in your vocals but for the most part they are spot on in this rendition. Only sometimes you let yourself down by the odd lapse of concentration in the vocal, like you need a producer to say, āDo that bit againā. It was only occasionally and for short periods like the end of a phrase or in some busy vocal bits where you needed to control breathing better (maybe). Excellent effort that could be even better if you overdubbed a few bits. I am not familiar with this piece so donāt know how it is supposed to sound but this version sounded good to me.
Thanks Riban, I donāt like my voiceā¦ Iāve never liked itā¦ not even when I was pianobarā¦
Iām interested in learning to play well, with beautiful sounds. This song is very difficult technically and playing a song like this is very difficult but I am learning a lot.
If I have the courage to put these songs on the forum itās to get criticism and adviceā¦ for free
Listen to this songā¦ itās a masterpiece of soundsā¦
One more thing Riban. In Neapolitan the last vowels of words are not pronouncedā¦ For example: Guaglione = Guaglionn, Buono= Buonn etc etc.
In a beautiful Italian film, Benvenuti al Sud, the Neapolitans teach someone who comes from Milan that it is necessary to remove all the final vowels which, however, ādonāt go to wasteāā¦ because they are used to say: "Oh!, Ahhh!, Ehhh? " expressions that are used a lot in the South.
Hi @Lanfranco for sure a triangle is not a Grand Piano but once you play your instrument with some confidence and with the good mood it canāt be bad: Iāve nothing to say about the way youāre singing.
Also, I wasnāt that much hurted by the ābasicā drum track wich makes you so disappointed. Most important for me was the harmony, the SOUND, the global mix and they were all quiet good.
But for sure, now itās even better and yes the guy who has provide the drum track has to be thanked.
In my musical adventure I have played with REALLY good singers (in particular with a singerā¦ Alessandraā¦ with the group that played bossanova) ā¦ Listening to these people causes spectacular emotions that are never forgottenā¦ and when you listen to the own voice, it is natural to compareā¦ and realize the abyss that divides us. Now in modern music I canāt hear voices that excite me. I want to become a decent amateur pianist/keyboardistā¦ and play with a good singer, bassist, drummerā¦ I donāt believe in being able to do everything with the help of technologyā¦ I love human āerrorsā that make sense to music.
I hardly āfixā things midi, because then everything becomes sterileā¦ perfect but sterile. Here is an example of my timing errors that make everything more HUMAN:
The triangle is one of the most difficult instruments to playā¦ few notes but a sound that is heard a lot in an orchestraā¦ you just have to be perfect!
I also donāt mind the drum part I put in the first mixā¦ but Tullio is Tullio and itās an honor to āplay with Himā
For my voiceā¦ I also have Melodyne to see what itās up toā¦ Iām waning and my sore throat doesnāt helpā¦ Iāll get my voice back as soon as Iām betterā¦ Thanks to all of you for the support morale and constructive criticism that I really appreciate
The hoarse sound is always mineā¦ Iāve been smoking Tuscan cigars for 10 yearsā¦
The problem is intonationā¦ as I donāt fix the notes with the quantizer, I donāt want to fix the notes of the voice with Melodyneā¦ Too easyā¦
Butā¦not feel that it is waning? I looked with Melodyne and Iām half a tone down
The drums are by Tullio dePiscopoā¦ the historic drummer of Pino Danieleās SuperBandā¦ I believe they fit wellā¦
Thank you very much anyway for your appreciation. Next week Iām going down to Cesena as a volunteer for the weather disasterā¦ But then when I come back Iāll do my voice again.
Given the beautiful spring ā¦ all my free time is for music. In two days I recorded another piece by Pino Daniele āSotto Ć³ soleā (under the sun). I have to find a more interesting ending, but I like the South American climateā¦ reminds me of when we used to play songs by A.C. Jobimā¦
To rest a bit from Pino Danieleās songs which are very difficultā¦ I recorded a song by another Italian giantā¦ āPrendila cosĆā by Lucio Battisti. I love this song because it has a great āthrowā (someone can tell me how to translate the word āTIROā into English?.. )
Thank you @le51ā¦ you know that I really appreciate constructive criticismā¦ Is the voice too unbalanced in the sense that the PAN is too shifted on a channel? Because Iām trying to use a technique that a singer friend taught meā¦ That is copying the track (mono) of the voice onto another track, shifting the phase by 1Microsecond and moving one track to the right and one to the left. Thank you
I LOVE Zynthian, but certain sounds like drums or horns, I prefer sampled ones.
Then, as you see in the list of used instruments, if I can, I use real instrumentsā¦ With Pino Danieleās songs I canāt use a guitar because HE plays it really wellā¦
However, three out of seven instruments are from Zynthian
and yes the guy who has provide the drum track has to be thanked.
ā¦ all my free time is for music. In two days I recorded another piece by Pino Daniele āSotto Ć³ soleā (under the sun). I have to find a more interesting ending, but I like the South American climateā¦ reminds me of when we used to play songs by A.C. Jobimā¦
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