SFZ sharing thread

[jofemodo]

I will fix ASAP.

Regards,

[wyleu]

@ToFF

So I have Alt Sax with rimshot

I was at that gig.

[jofemodo]

Sorry @ToFF ,

@ToFF

But another problem has appeared. When I change the preset, the UI still shows the previous options, i.e. it doesn’t overwrite it according to the current yml, or if the yml file is not there, it doesn’t return to the default state, this applies to the standard sfz files distributed with Zynthian.

I can’t reproduce this issue. Could you give a detailed list of steps to reproduce? (vangelis)

Regards.

[hannesmenzel]

Hi,

I did go over some samples I created myself in the past. I mainly created them in Kontakt back then, but during the ride through Zynthian I converted some to sfz.

Here is one somehow odd thing. While being at my parents place around 6-7 years ago I found an old copper lampshade which produced some amount of decaying (~45s) sound by taping on it with the fingers. I recorded that in a few velocity layers and turned it into a patch. This was somehow reminiscent of an electric piano in the end.

It has 3 patches (sustained, pad, reverse, plus mixable sub osc derived from a single wave cycle, and all using the original samples). It contains just 7 samples, but sounds quite nice.

13 Things Tonal Copper Lamp - Hannes.zip (24.1 MB)

I do have some other stuff as well on the drive (slightly bigger in size):

• A multisampled harmonium from a vacation in the Netherlands back then, which brought me a price from Spitfire Audio for “best recording” on Pianobook
• Two different multisampled acoustic guitars (one baritone)
• Some other “found sounds” category patches, like a post horn or percussive wine bottles

[piattica]

Thank you to share your work!

[Aethermind]

@hannesmenzel

Two different multisampled acoustic guitars (one baritone)

Interesting stuff @hannesmenzel, what about sharing it?

[hannesmenzel]

@Aethermind

Interesting stuff @hannesmenzel, what about sharing it?

Yeah, that’s the idea, but I can’t upload it here. These are rather in the 300-500 MB range.

[piattica]

What about ask developers if they can host them at Index of /files/soundfonts
creating a users folder?

[hannesmenzel]

Hi,

maybe someone knows of the Karoryfer Black and Blue Basses. They are CC-0 open source, so I edited them to be somehow Zynthian suitable.

Karoryfer Black and Blue Basses.zip (72.8 KB)

What is it?

It’s a sample library containing a “black” hollowbody bass and a “blue” solid body bass. It’s more than 1 GB in size and sounds quite nice.

Btw, I encourage you to pull the filter cutoff all the way down, because then velocity will modulate the filter in a very pleasing way.

How to install

• Move the content of the zip file to your user soundfont directory found under /zynthian/zynthian-my-data/soundfonts/sfz/
• Download the above mentioned library from Karoryfer
• Move the content of their “Samples” folder to the already created “samples” folder.

What was edited

• Replaced some ARIA functions Sfizz cannot read
• renamed the non usable sub maps and control sfz’s so it doesn’t appear in your menu
• reduced the patches to one per bass
• wrote the control yml’s and chose more common midi ccs.

What could be done?

• I thought about moving the ghost notes from a keyswitch to low velocity note ons for more intuitive playing.

Licensing

I guess given the fact it is CC-0 licenced it is allowed what I did, if not, please send me a message. I did keep all the licence files and notes in the script intact.

[ToFF]

@hannesmenzel,
You are faster than my thoughts. I started preparing to convert sfz for sfizz and zynthian just for the free fonts from karoryfer. The repository GitHub - sfzinstruments/karoryfer.black-and-blue-basses: Black And Blue Basses free bass guitar sample library for 2023 KVRDC states CC0 1.0 Universal, so I interpret it the same way as you and it should be fine.
I put one fast player on and here is the result

[hannesmenzel]

Did a short jam with it.

[hannesmenzel]

@ToFF

I’m wondering if anyone has tried to modify other sfz files for the wind controller. Something like Northern Trumpets free SFZ library

Just realized the sfz version is not free anymore.

[avitaletti]

Hello

I tried the sfz from Accurate Salamander Project Accurate-Salamander Project specifically the Soundbank#0: Accurate-Salamander Grand Piano with the sfz_minimum/Accurate-SalamanderGrandPiano_flat.Recommended.sfz and it works well with LinuxSampler. Personally, it is my favourite piano, in my opinion comparable to Pianoteq

[riban]

I edited the link in your post to fix it. You can find this project using musical-artifacts but there is no direct download link so you then need to follow the link to the project (same as posted by @piattica) to find the download, i.e. you can’t install directly in webconf from musical-artifaacts - you must manually download the install, e.g. with drag and drop into webconf. However, my attempt to install with webconf failed - possible due to the size of the file. I eventually installed it by using webconf file browser to upload the zip and then webconf console to extract it. I also had to move files around to get them recognised by sfizz.

I have a problem with all the Salamanda pianos I have tried and it suprises me that no one else suffers this… Each key appears in an apparently random position in the stereo mix. One might expect the keys to generally move from left to right as you progress up the keyboard from the lower towards the higher registers, but this is not the case. For example, E3 (52) is suddenly to the left of D4 (53). Trying to play this piano is like being in a strange dream where every note pulls your ears around your head! Actually, I just did a bit more experiment and it seems that some notes are being played (maybe sampled) out of phase. Adjusting the phase improves the sound. It is plausible that the samples (wav files) have poor phase alignment (or full phase inversion) or maybe the sfz is triggering at the wrong sample or maybe sfizz does something odd. The same thing happens in LinuxSampler so it seems unlikely that it is sfizz doing something odd.

[jofemodo]

Hi @riban !

I just tried the ASGP and i couldn’t reproduce your issue. I recorded a demo with Debusy’s “Clair de Lune” using the flat DAW sfz:

The panning seems good to my poor ears, with low pitched notes at left and high pitched ones to the right.

You can ear some spurious XRuns due to playing + recording at once. When playing alone, no XRuns. I used a 4GB V5.1. so it could improve with a 8GB zynthian due to bigger system cache.

Anyway, the sound is richer, warm and well balanced. Probably one of the best free Grand Pianos you can find.

Regards

[riban]

It is difficult to hear with a full piece of music like this. This ascending scale should demonstrate the issue. I now think it is not to do with panning but instead a phase issue. The sound moves all over the place in the phase domain.

[jofemodo]

What SFZ did you use to record this? Could this be on purpose? I’m not sure i dislike the “effect”, but perhaps my brain is damaged

Anyway, we could ask upstream. For sure the author has something to say. From the photos and text in the website, he seems to be quite picky.

We could reach him at: cyamauch % ir.isas.jaxa.jp

Regards,

[riban]

I actually used another Salamander sfz but every one I have tried is the same. I think they all work on the same original samples so all have the same issue. I cannot use Salamander Piano. The sound is just too wacky and I am suprised that anyone can which is why I doubt either my sanity or that of the rest of the world!

[HansR]

@riban

For example, E3 (52) is suddenly to the left of D4 (53).

E3 is supposed to be on the left of D4…
And D4 is 62, not 53…

@riban

I doubt either my sanity or that of the rest of the world!

Perhaps you are a bit tired?

[riban]

Ha! Typo - other way round… but the point is that as you play up the keyboard the sound moves around unpredicatbly.