After some deceptive trials with oram, I was wondering if it should be better come back to a previous version of Zynthian OS for my own configuration: PI400 (not supported ) and a 7" screen (not supported too).
So, when I installed 2023-08-25-zynthianos-stable-2308 everything was working. Even the touch screen was performing right.
However after installing oram, tactile on touch screen disappeared, and started my troubles with pianoteq, dissapearing too from the menu options.
However, as I still have a copy of the previous version mentioned, I tried to install it again. For my surprise, Raspberry does no recognize it or something else. It´s impossible to go beyond a black screen.
So I am guessing if may be some kind of âtime windowâ to install Zynthian OS. Id est, if after some period of time is impossible to install an old OS again, having to rely on new Zynthian OS.
I started to think about this, after discovering that old Zynthian OS, had flown from their repositories.
Some advice to recover my poor Zynthian âsuffering from electronic illnessâ, please?
Regards,
ZynthianOS does not have any âtime windowâ. For a given hardware setup, if a given SD image worked before, it should work now while hardware doesnât change and you donât update the image.
Anyway, Oram Bookworm is the present (testing) and future of zynthianOS, and it should be 100% backward compatible. Hardware setups that worked in previous versions should work in Oram too, if not, you should report the issues, giving all the needed details, logs, etc, so we can solve them.
I had been running the test versions for a long time, until I installed the latest stable, but I havenât dared to test the Oram version (64 bits) for lack of time.
I only use an external midi controller that calls the preselected presets. I havenât had a single problem in two years
Thank you @jofemodo.
I supposed that it should be âthe way you describesâ, but from the strange behavior of my device after update, I didn´t found a better explaining. The idea of âtime windowâ is present in common apps, after all, as Mac user I have had to change the clock of my computer many times to allow install older apps.
Now I will try to describe the strange anomalies observed.
Please tak a look at the uploaded video. Sorry for the bad quality, holding with one hand while manipulating Zynthian.
As I commented earlier, I am having dificulties to get working pianoteq. This afternoon, tried it in a new install of a previous image that my raspberry allowed me: 2024-03-01.
After searching âpianoteqâ in engines, finally appeared. After that I went to the pianoteq tab and put my license number.
After rebooting I got the âfantastic sceneryâ (ironically speaking) experience of having ALL the pianoteq models ready for me. But⌠no one sounds a bit. Not even my Petrof and electrics granted with my license.
I suppose that a kind of security matter (the second time it occurs) is the responsible of such anomaly.
I have seen lots of errors inside the debug log but I lack the knowledge to handle.
Finally, if I can get an oram working should be great, but I would be happy too, installing a previous version, if such was not possible. Please, tell If I have to upload any other data.
Now the debug log. (tried to copy & paste, but is larger than characters number allowed).
Among the anomalies detected, I was able to setup 2 pianoteq. Did not try anymore but, who knows?
As I told, no sound in any of pianoteq instancies.
But the other engines that I tried were performing well.
My advice depends on some aspects of your dis-ease which I donât presently know.
If you urgently require a âfix of Zynthian-Pianoteqâ we had best get you back up and running on stable. Did you keep your prior-to-Oram uSD card? If not we can just use the latest stable. Either way Iâd like to know more about the "black screenâ problem - when in the boot sequence does it appear. It sounds like an sdcard or reader problem. Can you try another?
If time is not so critical we can dig in and figure out what changes in Oram-Bookworm are causing the loss of sound from Pianoteq using the logs youâve already supplied as a starting point.
I did not keep my prior-to-Oram uSD card. What I kept was the installer, together other more.
With respect to the card, I am using âall the timeâ 3 different: two of 32GB and one of 64GB.
On the other side, I have started to think over a problem on PI400 bootloader. Makes sense?
I have read some entries and have found that may be causing problems to load old OSZynthian.
I´ll give you more info if get a solution.
And well, time is no so critical, so if you can dig int the log provided will be great.
Thanks in advance.
OK, good, Iâm pretty sure we can get Pianoteq running under Oram as there is a topic devoted to just that and others seem to have it working, albeit with problems now (mostly?) solved:
We can either switch over to that or stay here, Iâll leave that choice up to you.
I did take a look at your log file above:
and I see a bunch of errors:
zynthian startx[4554]: ERROR:zynthian_engine_jalv.set_preset: âPianoteq8STAGE_Muteâ
One for each different pianoteq piano, but I donât think this is actually a problem because we donât need-want an x window anyway. Hopefully someone will correct me if thatâs wrong.
Could you confirm:
That the basic problem is no sound from pianoteq, other engines do produce sound as usual?
And give us a screenshot or picture in webconf of:
The home screen AKA dashboard with categories hardware, system, etc.
The settings for audio under hardware with âAdvanced Viewâ on so we can see the Jackd options.
The settings from menu Software, Pianoteq
I renamed this topic:
Configuring Oram and Pianoteq - was-Is it possible to âdowngradeâ to a previous ZynthianOS?
from
Is it possible to âdowngradeâ to a previous ZynthianOS?
It looks like you are using the LV2 version of Pianoteq which we removed from Oram in a recent update. Are you fully updated?
We now only support the native application. This has the constraint that you can only run one instance of Pianoteq so if you have already added Pianoteq to a chain then you will not see it in the list of instruments until you remove it from the chain.
Thank you at all.
I will answer asap. Still doing tests. I will try to be more precise.
I am going to investigate about Pianoteq version posted by @riban.
I have had an intense afternoon!
First of all, I want to thank to Riban, thanks @riban! Your clue made a new world for my poor Zynthian suddendly recovered of the illness that had.
When installing the pianoteq_stage_linux_v822 everything started to work fine.
Until now I had to choose between pianoteq or the rest of synths dependancies. It seems that the nigthmare is over.
I admit that I panicked when my device was in between an old system, impossible to install, and a new one that was not performing adequately.
Moreover now, that I´m writing a Zynthian newbies diy guide as I promised some time ago.
When finished I will notify.
Meanwhile, I must congratulate to the team!
I have observed 2 interesting things in the new ORAM.
First one: midi over usb is now faster. To the point that I can play perfectly synced with external synths without noticeable delay. A great upgrade.
Second one: though I had read some thread about , the categories management is really convenient. Very comfortable to use. Another fine improvement.
I´ve been very busy last months, but, now I will try to recover some space for the music.
One last thing: probably as a part of the new improvements I have tried to upload âwithout successâ some SF2.
Is there a new (or adequate) way to do it?
Until now I have converted sf2 to sfz using polyphone and then installed the resulting files in different subdirs. I do it not to load linusampler and avoid one more engine using resources. Also to keep separate dirs, sf2 are (or uded to) be in the same directory.
) and a 7" screen (not supported too).
