Interesting. Maybe I am to much into looping that I do experience this as being the logical thing to do. What else would you do if not starting/stopping on the downbeat as @Baggypants described?
Also - if you are not used to foot-switching (not a guitar player) it is an unfamiliar and awkward motor skill for some (me). And if you have not used that before and are doing your first loops on the Zynthian i think approach 2 and 3, though a bit more technical, will give better early results, making the user happier and less frustrated. If you use Zynthian timing for the first loop, you have the clicks from the metronome to help you keep time, and you can even record a dummy loop the length you want it to be (in multiples of the Zynthian cycle) and then overdub whatever you want to play. Thus being able to focus only on playing and not also on foots-witching or knob-turning.
Non important
I made a videoscript and a video, but of course i am not happy with the result, and will have to try again, having now learned the tools and such. But now i’m leaving home for 3 days work and maybe leaving again sometime early next week - but i will try record again asap. The test video was 11 minutes long, had all the details, and started from totally scratch. I do not know if that is short enough, or it if even brings something to the table that is not all ready covered by Baggypants video.
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If your like me, you stop on 4 and wonder why your loop only has three beats. 
I quickly worked out what I’d done wrong though.
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Yes, but you are very clever.
I think we are fighting many, many hours of 1,2,3,4 music tuition here….
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I am very clever, and handsome, and modest.
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More soup, sir …?
No, not a question, an order.
On a V4, I am trying to figure out how to access the extra superlooper pages, so I can map the infamous single button mode.
- Short press encoder 4 to show the lost of pages of controllers.
- Rotate encoder 4 to highlight the page.
- Short press encoder 4 to select the page.
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I’m in the process of making a video on the above mentioned path. I’m currently away from machines, but results will be posted for review at beginning of next week!
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Hi @core.east, I feel the duration isn’t as important as clarity and being able to reproduce what you are doing. Advanced topics that focus on a single aspect, could actually be shorter since they may assume basic knowledge.
I very much agree, and anyways it is also going to be shorter in the end, i guess around 6-7 minutes. I’ll need to learn to use the mock-up-tool in webconf to get the switch and knob operation documented. Hope that will work out all right for my romoral keypads - i think it will.
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I have added a page to the wiki for SooperLooper. It is a placeholder for anyone to expand upon. I put a brief intro and a description of single pedal mode. Please make it better.
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Sorry for no output on this from me lately. Iwas very busy, and now i’ve also damaged my right shoulder in the aftermath of a local hero’s funeral.
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Health first - Hope you get better soon!
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Just
Just added an extra paragraph on how to bind pedals to specific loops with the “MIDI CC to selected loop” setting.
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There was a sword fight?
I would really like it to have been something like that, butunfortunately it was something much more mundane. But it was a long day with a certain progression - starting at noon and ending at 6 in the morning
Just submitted a PR for a SooperLooper Help page in the Zynthian internal help system (invoked with bold alt). It currently only lists the Zynthian-specific controls (single pedal, midi cc to selected loop and the local alt mode).
We could copy over the official docs (with a little editing), I do not know whether that is what we want.
While doing this I found I’d like to be able to create internal links (to other anchors within the page/to other local pages). Presumably this can be done with tkinterweb 4.x, but we are at version 3.24.7 right now.
Maybe this can be updated? This could allow for a better Help system within Zynthian.
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Thanks @niels that is a good start. It would be good to have more screenshots. An initial overview with an annotated screenshot would be a good first view. See the audio mixer help for an example of this.
I think linking to the upstream docs (as you have) is a good idea but not duplicating it here. Zynthian uses a lot of it but not all and in its own way. Also, I find the upstream docs a challenge to read. They are not organised optimally - at least not to my mind (which itself may be suboptimal!).
[Edit] Merged!
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Thanks for merging. I do not think an annotated screenshot would add much, since all items in the SooperLooper widget are already labelled. But if anyone can prove me wrong by providing such a thing, you’re welcome!